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The Chinese Are Coming, Part XVIII. It’s The Stimulus Stupid.

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“Who’s going to turn down a Junior Mint? It’s chocolate, it’s peppermint, it’s delicious. It’s very refreshing.”
Cosmo Kramer, Seinfeld, episode #60
When I was in law school, I was rankled by students who complained about how busy they were. I mean, we were all taking pretty much the same courses. I swore I would never engage in that whine and I never did.
Bloggers who apologize for being too busy to post also rankle me. I swore we would never make that excuse on this blog and for more than three years, we haven’t. But today, talking about how I have been too busy to post much is the perfect segue to this post and so I cannot resist.
The reality is that my firm has been crazy busy of late and it has been due mostly to China’s stimulus. Now I am not a big fan of government intervention and I see government stimuli (that is the plural of stimulus, I looked it up) as the equivalent of a sugar rush (see Junior Mints above), but man, while it is happening, it is even better than chocolate.
My firm is getting stimulus work both coming and going (and if you see any sexual innuendo in this sentence I can’t help you). I am going to have to be vague here (and even mix the facts up a bit) because none of these matters are out there in the public realm yet (though one is likely to hit the media any day now), but the following is what has been keeping me down/up lately:
1. We have been working on a large deal for a Chinese company that received a China bank loan along with pretty strong “instructions to do a deal in the United States.”
2. We have been working on a large deal for a Chinese company here in the United States that was able to severely undercut the pricing of its competitors because it recently started receiving Chinese government subsidies to do these sorts of deals outside China.
3. We have been working with a Chinese company looking to establish a factory on the West Coast, again, pretty clearly at the direction of the Chinese government, which has loaned them a boatload of money to do exactly this.
4. We have been working on a China joint venture for a US big equipment company (this is meant to be vague and is not the same thing as heavy equipment) that was asked to go into China by a Chinese company to take advantage of the massive uptick in need for this sort of equipment due to increased Chinese government infrastructure spending.
5. We have been working with a US company whose sales of big equipment (vague again) into China have doubled in the last six months due to increased Chinese government infrastructure spending.
And, needless to say, it’s not just us. The Wall Street Journal did a story on this about a week ago, entitled, “China’s Stimulus Spurs U.S. Business,” but hey, I was too busy to write on it then….
China Stakes notes that China’s overseas investment in 2009 will, for the first time, very likely exceed incoming investment into China.
Junior Mint, anyone?
What are you seeing out there?

  • http://www.shanghaiscrap.com Adam Minter

    In re to working journalists who are “too busy to post” – often, if not typically, that’s a smokescreen phrase meant to shake off pesky editors who view blogging as an (often correct) indicator of just how much their writers are procrastinating.
    Trust me on this one.

  • http://www.chinaenvironmentallaw.com Charlie

    Dan, I didn’t realize I was rankling you when I wrote that I was too busy to post. I usually don’t say what I’m busy with so it can just as easily be completing the visa renewal process as working for paying clients. In any event, I promise I won’t do it again.
    Re your post. There definitely seems to be an uptick in infrastructure related business coming into China. That makes sense given the stimulus packages heavy “build it and they will use it” emphasis. There is a lot of interest from cleantech concerns regarding opportunities presented by China’s green stimulus, but closer examination reveals the green claims for the stimulus are a little over hyped at this point.
    This could change (rumors are a true “green” stimulus plan is in the works), but I think its still a little too early to have a clear sense of the policy drivers that will decide China’s cleantech sector winners and losers.

  • http://www.chinalawblog.com/2009/05/china_good_business_gone_bad_y.html China Law Blog

    China: Good Business Gone Bad. You Want Pathos? I Can Do Pathos.

    So I just got an email from a friend criticizing me for being “relentlessly” upbeat during the “world downturn.” He wrote this email after my post yesterday touting how China’s stimulus has been a giant positive. He tells me that I am losing credibilit…

  • Falen

    Number 3 sounds like Suntech.

  • http://www.halfin-halfout.org/newyork ddjiii

    Okay, but in what way are items 1-3 stimulative (except of U.S. law firms specializing in China work?) That is, the Chinese government seems to be throwing large amounts of money at state-owned companies to expand in the U.S. by building factories, buying companies, etc., and there might be any number of reasons why they might legitimately want to do that, but I don’t see that any of it is helping to stimulate the Chinese economy, except very indirectly.
    More evidence that in any country, “stimulus” quickly becomes a synonym for “justifying spending enormous amounts of money on whatever we feel like”

  • http://www.chinalawblog.com Dan

    Adam,
    Aren’t journalists the only profession less trusted than lawyers?

  • http://www.chinalawblog.com Dan

    Charlie,
    Just so long as you never do it again….

  • http://www.chinalawblog.com Dan

    Falen,
    #3 may sound like SunTech, but SunTech is NOT our client….

  • http://www.chinalawblog.com Dan

    ddjiii,
    I am going to speak re #2 only. It allowed this company to win a big contract that is going to employ a whole host of Chinese high level employees. In fact, we were rehashing this deal today in the firm and talking about how “brilliant” this particular subsidy was for China. Trust me on this one.