On Choosing Your China Expert
I constantly get e-mails from readers asking for "China expert" recommendations or just how to go about finding such a person. I do not think there is such a thing as a China expert and I would not recommend anyone who claims to being such a thing.
Nobody who really knows China claims to be a China expert. Need an attorney to assist in your China company formation? I'm your guy. Need an accountant to handle your Chinese tax issues? I'm your guy. Need a business consultant to help determine the best location for your China manufacturing business? Me. Need consulting on China HR? Me, again. Help with China manufacturing/engineering processes? Hey, count on me for that too. China quality control? Piece of cake. China real estate investing (retail, residential, office, manufacturing, warehouse)? I got you covered. China logistics/shipping/trucking/customs? I know them all. Oh, yeah, I forgot to mention I am also expert on China economics, China history, Chinese psychology, and China sociology. Did I miss anything?
You get the point. The truly good China experts are at least somewhat specialized, just as is the case in the United States and virtually everywhere else. Anyone who claims to know too much about China almost certainly knows too little.
Before you or anyone seeking to act on your behalf can even begin looking for the right "China expert," there must first be an understanding of the type of expert required. Once you have some idea of the sort of expert needed, you then must, of course, find that expert within the particular China field. I wish I could pass on some big secret as to how to find that particular expert, but unfortunately, I think the best way is through word of mouth. The tough part is getting to the first mouth and making sure it is the right one.
Your regular lawyer can be a good source of referrals to experts. My firm constantly refers clients out to accountants, engineers, location specialists, investigators, real estate people, etc. in or expert on China. Sometimes we will just refer the client out to the expert and walk away. Other times, we bring on the expert and work with the expert. Others in your industry or just someone you know who has succeeded in China might also be good referral sources.
I am not aware of any association of China professionals with a legitimate policing mechanism, however ChinaSolved highlights professionals doing business in China and, based on the person behind this site (Andrew Hupert) and on the professionals up there whom I know, I do think this is a viable starting point. 9spaces.com site (based here in Seattle) is setting up a community of China experts, but I do not think it does much (if anything) in terms of filtering.
There are countless truly excellent China business experts out there in a whole host of specialties, but there are also many who should be avoided. There is no surefire way to know where to turn, but talking with those people you already know and trust is certainly the best place to start.
More ideas on this are most certainly welcome; the comment lines are wide open.

Comments (26)
Read through and enter the discussion by using the form at the endXiao Zhu - March 27, 2007 6:06 PM
A couple of people recently introduced themselves to me as sinologists, leading me to wonder what kind of qualifications are needed to become one. I definitely find it strange that some people can brand themselves as experts in all things China.
Sergey - March 27, 2007 7:06 PM
Isn't that what James McGregor (or his firm) claims to be?
PiPi - March 27, 2007 8:29 PM
Dan - well said. I don't how many 'China-experts' I've met over the years, but funnily enough I can't remember any of them.
Now if it's an expert on Chinese beer you want, talk to LaoLao. Chinese ladies, talk to LaoLao. Chinese food, talk to LaoLao's wife. Chinese barbers shops talk to a priest, you should be ashamed.
nanheyangrouchuan - March 27, 2007 9:37 PM
The best place to find a china expert is in a bar, the second best place is at a chamber of commerce event.
Karl J. Weaver - March 28, 2007 4:26 AM
Hi Dan,
With regard to China experts, I agree its not possible to know everything about China and specialists in one area are what is needed. For my part, I'm specialized in the wireless industry in China and specifically mobile devices (cell phones), which is, hands down, the largest revenue geerating sector in China. I have wanted to explain to your company how you should be developing this market, but ultimately, you guys claim not to be technology savvy, yet you maintain an excellent web page. Here is some advise from a guy in Washington State who has been liviing in/doing business with Greater CHina and India since 1985, and if you count studying CHinese language since 1982, you need to be developing opportunities to provide entry services to CHinese cell phone handset manufacturers whom will come to set up offices in Washington State. Over three years ago, I explained to the Washington State Office of Trade and Economic Development Council that because Microsoft was building up it's Windows Mobile Asian handset hardware partners in Greater CHina, they and the laywer community should spend the time courting those companies to come and set up an office in the Seattle area. Since then, HTC, a major Taiwanese vendor has put an office in Washington State. Now, I've noticed another company putting an office here for two reasons: first, to be next to Microsoft and secondly we have two of the countries wireless carriers' (T-Mobile & Cingular) handset divisions stationed here. It's only a matter of time before the Mainland Chinese handset manufacturers invest in offices here too. What I'm saying to your organization is be open minded, just because you don't happen to be very technology savvy is no reason for you to be blind to opportunities in (Greater) China. Do your research like I, as a Greater China and India Wireless Market/Mobile Device Specialist and develop relationships with these companies which may lead to revenue opportunities for your firm.
Thanks,
Karl Weaver
China Law Blog - March 28, 2007 6:37 AM
Xiao Zhu --
I think Sinologist is an academic term to describe a "China specialist." I think that is a legitimate term and I think that within that term, you might find a professor of Chinese history, Chinese culture, Chinese philosophy, etc. I've always thought of it as describin
China Law Blog - March 28, 2007 6:43 AM
Sergey --
Good point. Yes and no. Yes, the company describes itself as China experts, but no, I doubt very much that it is of the view that within its fairly large group, it has every expertise necessary for doing business in China. I would guess that from time to time it brings in outside experts to assist. So for example, my firm claims to be China lawyers. But, there are definitely many China legal issues we would not touch at all and a number of other China legal issues we would only touch if we could bring in the right outside person to assist.
McGregor's company has so many people with substantial experience and such a wide body of knowledge among those people that I have no problem with the firm describing themselves as China experts. I would think though that nobody within the firm claims expertise on everything China, or even everything on China business.
China Law Blog - March 28, 2007 6:45 AM
PiPi --
Further proves my point. Even with respect to China social issues there is specialization.
China Law Blog - March 28, 2007 6:46 AM
nanheyangrouchuan --
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China Law Blog - March 28, 2007 7:11 AM
Karl --
I actually do think of my firm as fairly techno savvy and we have done a bit of international work for some of the cell phone related companies in our area. There are millions of good opportunities out there involving China and cell phones certainly sound like a good one. But as a small law firm, we have neither the time nor the financial resources to devote to trying to get Chinese cell phone manufacturers to come to Washington with the hope that they end up being our clients. This is especially true since (at least as far as I know) we do not have any contacts with china side cell phone companies. It just does not make any sense for us to do that sort of thing. I do not think it is a case of our being blind to opportunities in China. Rather, it is a case of our having to prioritize.
otherlisa - March 28, 2007 10:47 AM
Hey, I think I am at least in the running for "Jr. Beer Expert"!
zzyzx - March 28, 2007 1:38 PM
Dan, there is one thing you�ve missed, Chinese business culture. Besides technical qualifications what you mentioned above, the China experts, you are looking for, need to know about basic unwritten rules in Chinese official circles as well as business circles. They should be able to handle the businesses with hidden agendas and influences when helping making decisions and negotiating. They always can find the right people to help you deal with local officials and solve technical and administrative puzzles and take care of business. If necessary, they will gladly step out and sacrifice themselves to entertain customers and officials without hesitation and buy them the satisfaction of being served from head to foot, of course, on your business expenses. A lot of times, it is what they sacrifice at times that makes your business successful and different than to do without them.
LaoLao - March 28, 2007 5:47 PM
Excellent post, and wonderful comments. Except for that PiPi character.
I agree with most all of the points raised, though I think Karl's trying a little too hard in drumming up some biz with you CLB. :)
Another thing about the "expert" issue here. I am not an expert in anything. My father used to say he was "a journeyman of all trades and master of none". Due to his working in several business sectors, as many of us do, we gain experience and are able to view things from more than one perspective.
In comparision to the average 25 - 35 year old raised and educated on the Mainland, foreign experts are just that. Expert-ienced.
Myra - March 28, 2007 8:29 PM
Hi Dan, reading your blog did give me great satisfaction. Though I am neither a lawyer or china expert, being a native shanghainese I do aware of the importance of having right " translation" in business. People is the main deciding factor in Business, so wrong people wrong expert can only bring you wrong place with lots of money and time consumed. I realize your guys talking about doing big cases in China, which would be very different from my experience, the past 3 years I spent my time as a freelancer specialized on providing advices and helps to manufacturers/contractors in semiconductor construction projects. Dan, do you notice that most of companies from Europe and Japan they have a habit of putting local agent to sigh contracts on behalf of them? Yeah, if some unwritten rules are not able to be played by you in the legitimate category, japanese and european they find the agent! Especially for Japanese businessman playing the "Guanxi" like fish in water is one of their specialities.
You know the secrets behind of the great success of business. always to have " Chinese Friends/agents speak for you".
Again Congratulation on your excellent job on maintaining this blog, it is something to my ordinary daily life.
Best Regards
Kent Kedl - March 28, 2007 9:59 PM
Good point. In the mid 90s I was the only foreigner on a panel at a conference on China manufacturing and I was introduced as a "Zhongguo Tong", a "China Expert." I said that I appreciated their kind introduction but that I had to disagree with them...I thought that "China Expert" was a contradiction in terms: Chinese history is too long, the culture too complex, the language too deep for anyone to be considered an "Expert".
I said that I prefer to use the term "China Addict". For over 20 years, I have been addicted to this place. Because of that addiction, I might have experienced a few more things than others, but by NO MEANS does that make me an "expert". If anything it might cause one to question my intelligence and "expertise" that my addiction is the thing driving me and not something more rational like money, fame or power. For those interested, I do a column for "that's Shanghai" magazine and my March column addresses this very issue:
Dan, keep up the GREAT work debunking and deflating those of us who think we know something...we need more of it!
China Law Blog - March 28, 2007 11:29 PM
otherlisa --
This is what I'm talking about. Jr. expert in beers worldwide? Beers in China? Domestic Chinese beers? You are going to have to be more specific even to be credible.
China Law Blog - March 28, 2007 11:30 PM
zzyzx --
Yes, to the extent the good expert in a number of the areas I listed has to know about the things you mentioned.
China Law Blog - March 28, 2007 11:32 PM
LaoLao --
I certainly did not mean to imply that expertise comes from education. It can come from either education or experience or a combination of both, depending on the area of expertise. At my age, I tend to favor experience.
China Law Blog - March 28, 2007 11:36 PM
Myra --
Thanks for checking in and thanks for commenting. I definitely agree with you on the need for using a culturaly knowledgeable expert in certain situations and there are definitely situations where no matter how good a foreigner's Chinese may be and no matter how well that foreigner may know Chinese culture, there is absolutely no replacement for a true local.
China Law Blog - March 28, 2007 11:39 PM
Kent --
You are far too modest. I certainly did not intend to debunk or deflate people like you who clearly know what they are doing.
BTW -- Love your article on irony and sarcasm in China and will definitely be sure to catch your next one.
Einar Tangen - March 29, 2007 3:09 AM
Thanks for the response. If you are in Beijing at some point and can give me some advance notice I would be happy to buy you lunch or a beer.
Beefeater - March 29, 2007 8:23 AM
A lovely post. It's quite heartening to see that normal business rules (want legal advice? See a lawyer. Want accountancy services? Go pester E&Y.) are coming to apply to the multinational service providers in China.
The way I see it, if you're selling expertise, you should be an expert in your own specialised field first and foremost - and a country, however well you know it, is just too big to be a field of expertise for these purposes.
Then again I'm an English qualified corporate lawyer, so I guess I have a vested interest in the continuing importance of narrow specialists.
tricia - April 2, 2007 2:50 AM
hey dan -this was a great post - I will direct people to read this when I get those questions also :)
China Law Blog - April 2, 2007 11:38 AM
Einar --
Sorry I did not see your comment until now. Lunch or beer sounds great. Do you ever make it to Shanghai?
China Law Blog - April 2, 2007 11:47 AM
Beefeater --
Vested interest or no, you are absolutely right.
China Law Blog - April 2, 2007 11:50 AM
Tricia --
Thanks. And I will direct to your blog those with an interest in Chinese youth culture.