China lawyers
Because of this blog, our China lawyers get a fairly steady stream of China law questions from readers, mostly via emails but occasionally via blog comments or phone calls as well. If we were to conduct research on all the questions we get asked and then comprehensively answer them, we would become overwhelmed. So what we usually do is provide a quick general answer and, when it is easy to do so, a link or two to a blog post that provides some additional guidance. We figure we might as well post some of these on here as well. On Fridays, like today.

What with all the US-China tensions and trade tariffs, the most common questions our China lawyers are getting these days from clients are whether they should keep having their products made in China and “what should we do about the tariffs?” We will deal with this second question first by simply referring to the following posts we recently wrote on this subject:

As for the second question, we’ll start out by giving the lawyer’s favorite answer: it depends.

For our clients that make clothing or furniture or basic beauty products or basic kitchenware or rubber duckies or the like, we can say that in the last five years well over fifty percent already moved elsewhere, to places like Vietnam, Pakistan, India, Malaysia, Thailand, The Philippines Cambodia, Turkey and even Laos. In the last couple weeks our international lawyers have been checking in with these clients and flat out asking how they are liking their new countries and the word coming back is that they are not without problems but they prefer them to China and they are — for the most part saving money by doing their manufacturing in these places. But what if you are making electronics or auto parts or IoT devices or medical devices or pharmaceuticals or skincare or vitamins or the like? Incredibly few of these companies have moved out of China in the last few years and though many of them are now looking to do so, it does not seem that will or even can occur in the short term as there are very few factories outside China that make these things on a contract basis. We have though had discussions with many companies about setting up their own factories in these countries and the big issue for them — no surprise — is whether their moving will so much cut them off from the components they need to make these products as to cancel out any potential savings. Some of these companies in these industries are looking at Eastern Europe, Spain, Portugal, South Korea, Taiwan and the United States.

Overall though, it seems as though most companies that have moved some or all of their production outside China — usually with a fair amount of trepidation — are surprised at how easy it ended up being and how quickly they have adapted to the change. There have been some though who once outside China found their costs went way up, usually due to supply chain difficulties, and moved back.

That is where the “it depends” part becomes so relevant. Things like doors and door handles and windows seem almost to be the perfect middle ground as some have moved out of China already (mostly for Vietnam and Taiwan) and some are looking at moving out and yet some who moved out have returned and some who looked at moving out have — at least for now — decided to stay.

Interestingly enough, we are hearing increasing talk of foreign companies looking to buy their Chinese factories either to try to reduce costs or because the owner wants to retire and there is fear that the factory will go downhill after that. In doing their cost-benefit analysis nearly all of these companies are accounting for the tariffs as a permanent condition and we think that wise.

On the legal side, moving is relatively easy in that a good manufacturing contract is a good manufacturing contract and it is relatively easy for us to take an existing NNN Agreement or Product Development Agreement or Manufacturing Agreement or Mold Ownership Agreement and modify them to work for another country. It is though very important (with most of the countries listed above) that you secure a trademark for your company name, your brand, your product name and your logo in the new country to which you are moving and it virtually always makes sense to do that as soon as possible.

The above is why our final answer is “it depends.” We will over the next few weeks and months be writing often on what is involved in moving your production from China.

What are you seeing out there?

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Dan Harris

I am a founder of Harris Bricken, an international law firm with lawyers in Los Angeles, Portland, San Francisco, Seattle, China and Spain.

I mostly represent companies doing business in emerging market countries. It has taken me many years to build my network and it takes constant communication and travel to maintain it. My work has been as varied as securing the release of two improperly held helicopters in Papua New Guinea, setting up a legal framework to move slag from Canada to Poland’s interior, overseeing hundreds of litigation and arbitration matters in Korea, helping someone avoid terrorism charges in Japan, and seizing fish product in China to collect on a debt.

I was named as one of only three Washington State Amazing Lawyers in International Law, I am AV rated by Martindale-Hubbell Law Directory (its highest rating), I am rated 10.0 by AVVO.com (its highest rating), and I am a SuperLawyer.

I am a frequent writer and public speaker on doing business in Asia and I constantly travel between the United States and Asia. I most commonly speak on China law issues and I am the lead writer of the award winning China Law Blog (www.chinalawblog.com). Forbes Magazine, Fortune Magazine, the Wall Street Journal, Investors Business Daily, Business Week, The National Law Journal, The Washington Post, The ABA Journal, The Economist, Newsweek, NPR, The New York Times and Inside Counsel have all interviewed me regarding various aspects of my international law practice.

I am licensed in Washington, Illinois, and Alaska.

In tandem with the international law team at my firm, I focus on setting up/registering companies overseas (via WFOEs, Rep Offices or Joint Ventures), drafting international contracts (NDAs, OEM Agreements, licensing, distribution, etc.), protecting IP (trademarks, trade secrets, copyrights and patents), and overseeing M&A transactions.