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         <title>jms</title>
         <description><![CDATA[<p>Good post. I sometimes tell the Chinese that the four most important figures in an American company are usually the CEO, COO, CFO and General Counsel to remind them of the importance of lawyers outside of China. Lawyers (the corporate variety) are indeed not needed when everybody is poor and there is no money to either gain or lose. But now that the Chinese have money, sooner or later they will realize the importance of lawyers.</p>]]></description>
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         <pubDate>Fri, 21 Mar 2008 09:45:57 -0800</pubDate>
         <dc:creator>Dan</dc:creator>
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         <title>Paul</title>
         <description><![CDATA[<p>Chinese companies are more apt to pay for a legal services when there is a specific benefit. Large number of firms in China are registering patents in the United States, for example. That is likely done through a law firm. Specific result for a specific expense?</p>]]></description>
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         <dc:creator>Dan</dc:creator>
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         <title>nanheyangrouchuan</title>
         <description><![CDATA[<p>Might have something to do with the long held practice of bribing your way into or out of any situation and dealing directly with the person with the power.  Instead you have to pay some person alot of money per hour and you don't even know if they are working during that time and the outcome is far from guaranteed.</p>]]></description>
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         <dc:creator>Dan</dc:creator>
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         <title>Lo Kok Kee</title>
         <description><![CDATA[<p>Hi Dan,<br />
Would the reluctance to pay legal fees change if you offer to charge on a contingency basis, no win no pay, then it is not a cost out of pocket? Not sure whether Chinese legal system allows this though.</p>]]></description>
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         <dc:creator>Dan</dc:creator>
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         <title>FOARP</title>
         <description><![CDATA[<p>@Paul - Actually most of the patenting work is done in-house, and anyway, if you want a patent you should go to a patent agent, not a lawyer.</p>

<p>You are, of course, quite right that this is an example of people spending money to acheive a specific result - using patent applications as a way of showing results from R&D. The problem is that these patents very often have little value and are simply being made to reach a numerical target set by management - they are not a real measure of the quality of R&D being done by the company. Income from patent licensing is a far better measure, but some companies prefer not to license their technology. Even the patents which might be of value are very often extremely poorly drafted, and companies are unwilling to spend the money to have the quality of their US patents improved through re-issuing. </p>

<p>In fact, the vast volume of patent aplications being made by Chinese companies in the US is much more a measure of how easy it is to gain a patent in the United States nowadays. I know companies with global interests which make upwards of two-three thousand applications per year to the US but less than two hundred in Europe, Korea and Japan put together. It is when you examine the extrememly un-novel and obvious nature of the applications being made, and how very few of the claims survive examination at the USPTO (even given the rather lax standards applied there) that you understand that these applications are much more a PR exercise aimed at potential investors than anything else.</p>]]></description>
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         <dc:creator>Dan</dc:creator>
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         <title>nanheyangrouchuan</title>
         <description><![CDATA[<p>"In fact, the vast volume of patent aplications being made by Chinese companies in the US is much more a measure of how easy it is to gain a patent in the United States nowadays."</p>

<p>And how many of these "innovations" were lifted from foreign companies in China.</p>]]></description>
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         <dc:creator>Dan</dc:creator>
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         <title>FOARP</title>
         <description><![CDATA[<p>@NHYRC - Only as many as foreign companies are willing to gift them by making incomplete claims for their inventions when making applications to the USPTO. </p>

<p>All companies engage in 'writing around' their competitor's patents, this does not mean they automatically have the right to use the invention, as the invention may incorporate technology that has already been patented by a competitor. </p>

<p>Most licensing agreements leave order-export manufacturers free to patent any improvements they might make on the technology which is licensed to them - and so they do, there is nothing wrong with this.</p>]]></description>
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         <dc:creator>Dan</dc:creator>
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         <title>suckit</title>
         <description><![CDATA[<p>The worst part about this article and all of these comments is that it encourages the mentality of needing a lawyer for anything.  I think the title of this piece offers better advice than the meat of this article.</p>]]></description>
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         <dc:creator>Dan</dc:creator>
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