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         <title>Bill</title>
         <description><![CDATA[<p>Love to be a rich foreigner in China.</p>]]></description>
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         <pubDate>Wed, 30 Jan 2008 07:23:04 -0800</pubDate>
         <dc:creator>Dan</dc:creator>
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         <title>Gary</title>
         <description><![CDATA[<p>You can say the same thing about being an senior citizen in America. You can get a lot of respect by being old sometimes, but at other times you get treated poorly.</p>]]></description>
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         <title>Cathy</title>
         <description><![CDATA[<p>This situation reminds me of Russia in the early 1990s when there were "hard currency shops."  These shops were always brightly-lit and fully stocked with European-imported goods - a far cry from the regular, grim Russian shops whose own stock reflected, in both paucity and quality, the not-yet-loosened Communist economy.</p>

<p>My host family once took me to one of the hard currency shops (in St. Petersberg, at the Hotel Pribaltiskya, I believe), and the only reason they could get in was because they were with me, and I had a US Passport.  Otherwise they were banished like all the other dollar-less Russians to the regular grocery store, which in April 1992 I remember was stocked with piles of cucumbers, piles of potatoes, some scary looking meat patties, tins of apricot juice, and that's about it...</p>

<p>Interestingly, though, by that time Pepsi had started being sold in Russia.  In the regular grocery store you could spent 12 rubles for a glass bottle with "Pepsi" printed on the label in Cyrillic.  At that time 12 rubles = 12 cents (although still a fortune to a local).  Whereas the hard currency shops sold European-imported cans of Pepsi for a dollar, which in 1992 was expensive by anyone's standards.  I bought one just for the hell of it anyway, so we could take a "Pepsi Challenge" against the one from the regular store.  If memory serves, Russian one was actually better...</p>]]></description>
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         <title>jane</title>
         <description><![CDATA[<p>I was at a Chinese airport once waiting with my white male colleague to be picked up by the hotel.  We both had rather bulky luaggages.  When the chauffeur arrived he looked at me (a petite Chinese American woman), and then looked at my colleague, and walked pass me and proceeded to help my white male colleague with his luggage.  We of course both immediately corrected him -- that he is to help the lady first!  Yes, things like this still happen in China on occasion, but I'd say overall people are more used to dealing with non-Chinese people and being a foreigner is gradually becoming less and less of an asset.</p>]]></description>
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         <title>Ben Ross</title>
         <description><![CDATA[<p>I would agree that China definitely has this so-called "cargo culture," in most respects at least.</p>

<p>I would guess that in regards to the Olympics, the relative ease for foreigners getting tickets is probably because with the sheer amount of Chinese people who want to go to the games, the organizers are probably doing their best to avoid a scenario where the audience is 97% Chinese at every single event.  Unlike people of most Western countries, it isn't quite as easy for Chinese people to go to other countries to attend events such as the Olympics.  Couple this with the massive population, the fact that much of it now has expendable income for the first time, and this  could easily lead to a situation where most non-Chinese are shut out of tickets.  </p>

<p>As for train tickets, I'm not really sure what that comment is referring to.  Buying tickets  during Spring Festival is a pain in the ass for everybody, but for regular tickets I would always buy them at the window in train stations, usually less than 24 hours in advance, just like all the migrant workers.  None of us seemed to have any problems.</p>]]></description>
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         <title>mor</title>
         <description><![CDATA[<p>"A few years ago, I went to Goroka, Papua New Guinea, to recover two Kamov Helicopters on behalf of a client/friend from Sakhalin Island, Russia (man, I loved writing that sentence!)."</p>

<p>This could be the opening line to an interesting novel or movie. Actually, your story is very interesting.<br />
On the topic, the reason foreigners used to enjoy so many privileges and sometimes still do, is that they were/are perceived as naturally rich or at least richer than the average local. Some Chinese people say "dakuan" instead of "laowai".</p>]]></description>
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         <title>Lo Kok Kee</title>
         <description><![CDATA[<p>Some years back, foreigners were charged extra for most things in China, e.g. train tickets, show admissions, museums etc., by having one price list in English and another cheaper one in Chinese. The tradeoff is a shorter queue, but I doubt you would consider that a privilege.</p>]]></description>
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         <dc:creator>Dan</dc:creator>
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         <title>steve</title>
         <description><![CDATA[<p>I regularly ride the D train from Shanghai and have noticed that when I ascend the stairs to the waiting lounges the police are there to greet everyone.  They regularly stop 20-30 year old male Chinese guys and send them over to the security desk.</p>

<p>Bottom line is, if you have a western face and are not spitting in the cracks and crevices, you are perceived as "social and economic lubricant" i.e. someone contributing to the growth of China.</p>]]></description>
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         <dc:creator>Dan</dc:creator>
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         <title>Andreas</title>
         <description><![CDATA[<p>It makes me sad to read about it, and it makes me disappointed to read the discussion, especially in a blog that has the following purpose: "China Law Blog focuses on business law in China. " Is this how you look at law practice?</p>

<p>I am Swedish and live in China. Nothing makes me happier to see when a foreigner is taken down on earth and treated as locals are. It is so sad to hear foreigners talk and expect to be better trated due to their white skin. Seriously, come back to earth. Chinese will overrun US and most other countries due to the attitude of western people not realising the world is changing.</p>

<p>The negative part mentioned, being charged more. That is because they can charge you more! What lawyer or business man wouldn't do that? Try speaking chinese with them and you will see that you get so much better treated. Take the culture where you go instead of bringing your own, that will help I promise! A mistake I am sorry to say  that especially americans do going abroad.</p>

<p>Of course they are less worried about a foreigner being a burglar at a nice compound and therefore not stopping you. </p>

<p>The last comment. Foreigners are not the rich people in china! The are not target group for marketers. The chinese are the ones buying luxury goods and spending money.</p>]]></description>
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         <dc:creator>Dan</dc:creator>
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         <title>Law Office of Todd L. Platek</title>
         <description><![CDATA[<p>Have to chime in on this one, which is an old tune.  Pre-1980's, political power was everything in China.  Money is displacing political power as the great equalizer.  A foreign face? Still good stuff, but only insofar as it is convenient, to us foreigners in getting around, and to Chinese in bettering their lot in life in and out of China. Just the rugged, unattractive reality of living in an increasingly dog-eat-dog society in which over 1.3 billion souls compete for tiny pieces of the pie.  If you've got to be a foreigner in China, have the good sense to be one with some humility and compassion.</p>]]></description>
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         <description><![CDATA[<p>The Major Indoor Soccer Society's Milwaukee Breaker announced  brain tumor  Wednesday forward MarcoTerminesi has been placed on their injured delay record as he undergoes an testbrain tumor  in his tranquil mother country of Canada repayment for a workable perceptiveness brain tumor.<br />
<a href="http://www.anshibo.org" rel="nofollow">http://www.anshibo.org</a></p>]]></description>
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