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China Banquets. A How To/Must Do.

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It’s been years since I’ve written about the etiquette at Chinese banquets, but just saw a really good post (with really good comments) on the subject, so i cannot resist. The post is at Seeing Red in China and it is entitled, “Banquet etiquette for gaining face.” Nothing new or unusual there, but very nicely lays out how to act at a Chinese banquet so as to make a good impression.

Before I talk about Seeing Red’s post, however, let me set out the two key things you have to know about these events, beyond which, all the rest is commentary:

  1. Don’t sweat the small stuff. Nobody is going to expect the laowai to know every aspect of Chinese banquet etiquette. Read Seeing Red’s post, be respectful, have fun, and try your best, and you will do just fine.
  2. You have to go and you have to partake, at least a bit. Acting as though you can and should do business in China just the same as you do business in Kalamazoo.  I am not telling you to discard your values. Not at all. But I am saying that you should be flexible. When in Rome….

Seeing Red’s post discusses the following aspects of a Chinese banquet:

  • The Seating. I have found that the key here is to hang back and wait for the host/leader to instruct you where to seat. It matters!
  • “Saying No” on food. I do not eat meat so I have to say “no” more than most, but I have never found this to be a problem. I do not think it right for my eating habits to influence a table of 6-12 so I typically do not mention my not eating meat until the food has come, at which point if anyone asks me why I am not eating a meat dish or looks askance at that, I explain that I do not eat meat. This usually leads to a long discussion as to why I do not eat meat and then that’s it. I always play up the fact that I love Chinese food and that I love the tofu, the noodles, the fish and the green beans (all true) and nobody seems to care at all. Seeing Red would say it is because my not eating particular dishes reflects solely on me and not on the host’s choice and so the host has lost no face. Again though, I do make it a point to gush over the best dishes, but since I love food, that is no problem.
  • Toasting/alcohol. I love toasting but I am, admittedly, a wimp when it comes to drinking. Let’s face it, most Americans are. So what I do is what one of the commenters suggested. I talk up the beer and joke about the baiju. If you can avoid the baiju, you have a better than 50-50 chance of making it out alive.

I also should note that most of my big meals in China are with Chinese law firms with whom my firm has had long term relationships. Virtually none of these lawyers smoke and they are generally more worldy/civilized (I am betting) than factory owners in Handan. This means that the pressure they exert is probably far less than at a typical China banquet and so I would love to hear more from those who attend these in their more basic form. China banquets. What say you?

  • anon this time

    I have seen many Chinese refuse to drink, especially (but not limited to) women, the health conscious, and those who practice this or that religion. IMO it’s much more okay for women and those middle-aged or higher to completely (and without explanation) refuse alcohol; global “man law” seems to dictate that we guys (God help you if you are in your 20′s) are supposed to love the stuff, and if you aren’t drinking baijiu, well then naturally you’ll be drinking beer, right?
    It’s been several years since I attended a Chinese banquet, and with the current stiffening enforcement of DUI laws and the explosion in personal vehicles in China, I cannot imagine that the situation has done anything but improve for the vegetarians and teetotalers who live/work in China.
    One thing about banqueting with those who might be a little… crude or rough around the edges. Polite no’s might not suffice. You’d better be ready with a clever, bawdy, or snarky retort (in Chinese, of course) for the loud-mouthed buffoon who seems determined to see you disgustingly wasted. If that’s not to your taste, then just lie. Being under doctor’s care, taking prescription medicine, pregnant, any and all medical reasons are great, fool-proof excuses, and when pressed you can say your Chinese isn’t good enough to explain. Even the most long-term accepted foreigner is still an alien and thus we are not (thank GOD!) subject to some of the most intense pressures native Chinese are.
    That said, I remember going to keggers in college here in the U.S. and being accosted / interrogated by those who felt uncomfortable that I was not drinking… once a host wanted to fight me because he felt that i was acting “too good to drink” his beer. For a country so full of religious fundamentalists, the U.S. sure hosts a lot of people who frown on the sober. Perhaps it’s different these days, but back in the early 90′s when I was in college in the U.S. version of Jiangxi, man it occasionally was tough to turn down a drink at a party.

  • Volker Müller

    Like in most cases, honesty is the best way.
    Telling the host / guests of the banquet as soon as possible, best before the banquet started, that you don’t drink alcohol, then everyone is prepared. (you may add that you don’t mind other participants from drinking).
    You may ask one member of your team to drink on behalf of you. An option generally accepted.
    I know a colleague (not living in China) who is vegetarian but skips this habit when he comes to China. Coming to China without tasting everything on the table is a pity …

  • Marcie V.

    It’s fun to see a post like this again and I am enjoying the comments. It reminds me of simpler times, when we were all just getting our China legs. Thanks for the memories.

  • Maurice

    Why not just join the Chinese in drinking? I mean, if you can take a couple of baijius, just go for it. Chinese sure can drink the jiu, but get drunk fast.
    I have been joining my friend, who is in the flower business, to many dinners with local authorities and his customers down in the ‘nongcun’, far away from civilization. As Anon nicely puts it, we got disgustingly wasted, but people loved it. We even managed to outdrink the Inner Mongolian lady who was at the dinner for the sole purpose of challenging us to drink. They loved it, and after leaving to Beijing the next day, we heard that we left a great impression and new orders were expected soon.

  • LD

    Call me crazy, but I love the whole banquet thing. It doesn’t hurt that I weigh 265 pounds.

  • Chris

    Drinking – if you dont want to drink at all, let it be known early, apologize profusely, but say it is “doctors orders” as you have high blood pressure, or liver or kidney problems. Partake in toasting with a cup of tea or soft drink. “Doctors orders” usually works just fine.

  • Hartmann

    Since any Chinese banquets that viewers of this blog participate in are really cross-cultural banquets instead of orthodox Chinese banquets, the pressure of drinking from peers is relatively low.
    However, I think people should avoid baijiu as much as he or she can. I despise the baijiu to the utmost. One of my colleagues just died from liver cancer last month, leaving his wife and a ten-year-old son behind.
    Should he have known what was coming, he probably would not have risked his life for a job promotion by drinking in place of his boss.

  • PaulR

    One time in particular, I remember getting “ganged up on” – the host had his drinking team (about 7 ex-Army lackies) toast each of us (we had only 3). So we had to drink more than twice as much as they did.
    No worries – go ahead and get hammered. Make obvious and appalling advances on the nice-looking secretaries in attendance. Go ahead and vomit if necessary. The hosts will thoroughly enjoy it and be much more friendly with you the next time around.

  • http://inbeijing.tumblr.com Laobaixing

    I’m a vegetarian who has lived in China for 4-5 years. I go to a couple of business dinners a month, and seldom have a problem with it. The key is to have someone else bring your dietary restrictions up on your behalf. If you’re there with Chinese colleagues/friends and the host is someone you don’t know ask the colleague/friend to speak up when ordering. It doesn’t come across as rude, and generally leads to more food being available for you. The only problem I’ve ever had was when the person ordering didn’t specify not to put any meat in any of the vegetable dishes (welcome to China, where they even put pork in string beans), and I only had some fried doumiao to eat. The doumiao was pretty delicious, though.

  • charles

    I recently started a company in China and I have to say I got lucky as my Chinese partner lavishes on banquets every time I’m there, but never pressures me to drink. Luckily I like baijiu and my Korean blood manages to handle it decently. I agree with your amendments in terms of etiquette. When in doubt just smile and observe and follow the host’s instructions. And let’s be honest, if you’re half decently educated chances are you know how to be polite and fake your way through uncomfortable situations.