China HR, Part II -- Response to Comments
By Shaun Rein
My commentary for Forbes about HR strategies in China How Multinationals Err In China has evoked a lively debate on various blogs. Dan Harris China Law Blog has engendered some of the best perspectives from commentators. Dan has asked me to write a response to some of the comments/ debates going on which I will do here.
Within 5 hours of my piece going up in Forbes, my firm received 60 some emails from people working from the US to Europe to the Middle East with comments on the article. A common theme is that not just Chinese youth but most people want to have jobs that afford them respect and give them chances for advancement. Thus, my article seems to resonate throughout the corporate world. The themes in the article and in the responses the article provoked are universal and should be recognized by all corporations as they develop sound HR strategies. The central idea is that browbeating employees or plying them with money will not ensure that a company can retain key talent. Indeed, American employees would not want to work in companies in the States that offer no chance of advancement. Chinese feel the same way. I agree with Dan that while cultural differences between the US and China do exist, people are people and business is not so different.
Here are some of the major themes brought up by many commentators and my responses:
Cheap Labor
China can no longer be viewed as a place simply to produce products destined for Wal-Mart or K-Mart. Chinese are optimistic about their career prospects and are demanding higher wages and better working conditions, even in factories where laborers were previously just thankful to have a job. Factories are modernizing and workers are more willing to stand up for their rights and hold out for better conditions. Foxconn's operations suffered in China because employees were unwilling to accept what they considered to be poor work conditions. In comparison, Flextronics, a company that has approached HR and work conditions more progressively, has had fewer issues with workers. They are treated better and tend to be happier based on interviews my firm has conducted.
Obviously, there are price advantages to locating to China as some critics of my article noted. Smart companies will take advantage of this. Though fees for accounting firms remain at international standards, for instance, the Big 4 accounting firms do pay less for their junior managers than their counterparts in the US. But the key is that the partners (Chinese included) make or can make the same amount of money as expatriates. In these firms, there is no defined class structure based on one's citizenship.
It is important that companies allow Chinese the opportunity reach the top and earn top level compensation. In China, the industries that have done this the best are the investment banks and law firms. Rainmakers earn huge payoffs. Maybe only 1 out of 1000 analysts at Goldman Sachs in the US makes it to the Senior Managing Director level, but that dream is inculcated in the sweatshops of Goldman's hallowed halls. Without the possibility of reaching the highest echelons, little motivation exists for an employee to work grinding hours for years on end. It is much easier to change jobs frequently and take incremental pay raises than stay in one place with no hope of upward movement.
Service economy
In the late 1970s, when China was just embarking on its economic reforms, only about 25% of the economy was service based. My firm estimates this number will hit 45% by the end of 2008 for a couple of reasons. First, as Chinese get wealthier, they are demanding more leisure activities and spend more time and money at restaurants, massage parlors, and vacation destinations. Second, as Chinese businesses blossom, an ecosystem of law firms, banks, consulting firms and the like are proliferating to help Chinese businesses grow their companies.
The Government has supported this growth and is encouraging FDI in the service sector. We often recommend to our clients in the manufacturing sector that they consider Vietnam as an alternative to China when building new factories to a) lower political risk (mostly from the US and not China) and b) to take advantage of Vietnam's push for manufacturing while China is discouraging it. This is becoming such a big part of MNC's business that my firm is thinking about expanding and opening an office in Vietnam.
The growth in the service sector in China is an important consideration for foreign companies, both in how they view China as a business opportunity and in how they treat HR issues. As China's service economy develops, companies are increasingly faced with employees who expect a higher quality of life, not just in terms of monetary rewards but in terms of flexibility and lifestyle. They want more personal vacation time so that they can enjoy golf lessons or a trip to the beaches of Hainan with their family.
The worker in the service sector cannot really be treated as an easily replaceable commodity as, unfortunately, too many companies did before in the factories in Guangdong.
Lack of Talent
The majority of MNCs will turn a profit in China in 2007. There are a number of reasons for this turnaround in the prospects of MNCs in the Middle Kingdom, including improved transparency, continued Government reforms, and a Chinese consumer with increasing disposable income. Another key ingredient contributing to the growing success of multinationals is the implementation of management teams on the ground in China that understand how to navigate the markets and give their clients/ customers the services and products they demand at the right price point.
A large part of this success can be attributed to the growth of China's talent pool. Unfortunately, the talent pool is not large enough to accommodate the demands of MNCs. Part of this is because the potential profit in China is so good that MNCs need more and more talent in order to scale up, part of it is because of an education system which does not equip its graduates with the analytical skills to cope with the electric business markets in China. The brains are there but only companies that can implement training programs that give employees functional skills while also offering them opportunities to advance will be able to scale up to the level they need to grow along with China's booming economy.
And many of the top Chinese do prefer to forge ahead and open their own companies in the hopes of becoming the next Chen Tianqiao or William Ding Lei. But still, there are talented folks who would be willing to work in MNCs if they felt they would be treated with respect.
Going Forward
Aside from understanding what your target market wants or improving supply chain functions, MNCs need to create sustainable HR strategies. Though HR is often considered a laggard in the corporate hierarchy to sales and finance, in China the fight for talent is at such a fever pitch that HR departments need to play a critical role in helping their companies grow.
Companies need to see what their own employees want and figure out the recruitment and retention strategies necessary to grow profitable businesses in China.

Comments (7)
Read through and enter the discussion by using the form at the endnanheyangrouchuan - June 1, 2007 12:32 AM
Shaun's talent pool comment is the crux of this whole debate. China lacks serious talent. There are very few hotdogs and a whole lot of hamburger.
What can you say or do when most of your employees show up at 10 am? whine? cry? their mommies come in and demand raises? Can't do lick for work and leave early? The little emporers are on whole absolute rubbish. That is why expat talent is in such high demand and the rare local talent out there can demand equivalent compensation.
And that is in established fields of logistics, IT and manufacturing. How about a new field like mine? The majority of the time all I hear is how the US created China's pollution problem while these same "environmental engineers" spit and pee all over the place, along with their kids. They don't get it and they never will. 5000 years of rot and decay.
David Yu - June 1, 2007 8:10 AM
nanheyangrouchuan,
I've been following your posts, you do appear to be someone who's had a bitter experience in the PRC. I've enjoyed an expat package, and I do believe I was better trained/educated than the locals back then, but I also met a bunch of locals who had so much potential they made me feel guilty about my pay package. I like money and I was glad to be paid well, but I never felt the need to speak so bitterly about the locals.
I don't think Shaun would agree with you on what the crux of this whole debate is.
nanheyangrouchuan - June 1, 2007 12:58 PM
David;
I wouldn't feel guilty about the package, those few gems you speak of will be making your salary in no time and they know it.
It has been the intention of corporate accounting and HR departments to replace expats with local talent to improve the bottom line. But because of the condition and intent of China's education system and the little emporers, that is not going to happen for lots of political and cultural reasons.
Corporations almost have to give the "potential talent" a complete re-education.
Phil - June 1, 2007 1:54 PM
Great response from Shaun, thanks for that.
There's a couple of interesting ideas in there:
1) That the payscale for Chinese employees effectively stretches from the 1000 yuan a month at the bottom to standard western rates at the top. If that were really implemented, I'd love to see what happens. It's like a test case for market liberals' claim that more opportunity makes for more hard work... I don't know if other countries have had similar situations.
2) History repeats on every scale. It's always been said that doing business in China is about relationships, broadly understood, more than anything else (/more than in other countries), and here's the idea that even in western MNCs, it's HR that is going to play a key role in success in China.
David Li - June 1, 2007 8:15 PM
There is an interesting article on Fortune about "Gen Y at Work." I think there are a lot of parallels to be draw between Gen Y in the states and the little emperors in China, especially in their views of life and expectation from the companies.
http://money.cnn.com/magazines/fortune/entrylevel/2007/index.html
On the Point has a show on the same subject.
http://www.onpointradio.org/shows/2007/05/20070522_b_main.asp
NT - June 1, 2007 10:55 PM
Good article.
There is definitely a growing pool of talented local staff in China, especially among the younger generation.
But as the article stresses there simply aren't enough of them. And the pool isn't growing fast enough. I find that keeping good people has become a big challenge, given the sheer number of opportunities in the job market right now.
I'm all for putting local and expat staff on the same pay scale, but I also wonder whether some HR depts have taken this too far. The knee-jerk reaction to the tight labour market has been to over-promote and to over-pay. For the time being, the drawbacks of doing do can usually be offset by rapid growth in the market, but I wonder how sustainable the situation really is. Have expectations climbed too high?
I certainly don't think an over-reliance on expats is the answer, but I don't see how China is going to produce enough talent in the next few years to sustain its growth rate, especially when many of its best people still prefer to move abroad, irrespective of the financial incentives now available to them inside China.
nanheyangrouchuan - June 3, 2007 6:47 PM
"but I don't see how China is going to produce enough talent in the next few years to sustain its growth rate, especially when many of its best people still prefer to move abroad, irrespective of the financial incentives now available to them inside China."
Chinese people I've met in the US have a saying: If you want to be rich, go back to China, if you want to be free, stay in the US. And alot of them sense big trouble after the olympics are over, Taiwan is just the tip of the iceberg.
Pollution is the second big deterrent. All chinese take note of how sick they get when they go back for visits and they all greatly appreciate doing outdoor activities worry-free (even in LA) and drinking tap water. They certainly don't want to raise their kids in that mess. Oh, and they can have as many kids as they want in countries other than China.
Real property ownership, participate in the local gov't, um, what else am I missing?