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China Law Gossip: The Good, The Bad And The Ugly

Posted by Dan on February 19, 2007 at 01:27 AM

Lots to talk about regarding China law firms in the last few weeks.  I do not think things have been this juicy since we broke the story on the now famous Shanghai lawyers' memorandum regarding cracking down on foreign law firms.

Let's start with the most recent "news" first.  What is going on with Chicago based mega-firm McDermott Will & Emery's much publicized push into Shanghai?  For more on what was to have happened, check out the WSJ Law Blog.

I ask this because I recently received the following comment:

Re: McDermott China offices Matter

The press release by McDermott on its MWE China Offices is misleading in the following aspects:

1. Kevin Qian could not be the lawyer nor one of the founding partner at Yuan Da Law Office or MWE China Offices since he is still the partner in Allbright. In China, no one lawyer could be a lawyer of two firms simultaneously. So the point is, before Kevin Qian could formally terminates his relationship with Allbright Law Offices, which is said has not taken place since Allbright partners reject Kevin Qian's resignation given his refusal to pay off or settle his portion of liabilities in Allbright.

2. Further, the statement in MWE's press release about 20 lawyers having already joined this MWE China Office, is also misleading. These 20 lawyers are still in Allbright and whether they would be able to terminate their employment contracts with Allbright is subject to Allbright's consent pursuant to the Chinese labor law. So far, their termination has not been approved and also it is uncertain whether their resignation would be approved soon.

3. Shanghai Justice Bureau has an internal circular on what a Chinese law firm could establish its relation with a foreign firm. Basically, if such relation would be considered as formal and exclusive, it would require application to and approval by Shanghai Bar Association and Shanghai Justice Bureau. Given the formal and exclusive alliance between DWE and Yuan Da, it would be extremely likely that it would be subject to strict scrutiny and possible approval by Shanghai Justice Bureau.

Anna

I will be having lunch this week with the head of one of Shanghai's most dynamic law firms and I will seek an update from him regarding this.  In the meantime, any information on MWE China's status would be helpful as I have absolutely no idea what is going on there beyond what I read in the Wall Street Journal a couple of weeks ago.  Are Anna's comments credible?  I will note Anna is right about Allbright's website listing Mr. Kevin Qian as still with the Allbright law firm.  The Allbright website also still lists John Z.L. Huang, who also was to have gone to MWE China.

Closer to home, Seattle based mid-sized firm, Garvey, Schubert & Barer, appears to have lost two of its leading lights in its China office. As recently as April, 2006 (the most recent archived date for the firm's website at wayback.org -- click here for that version), Garvey's website listed William Perry and Richard H. Lawrence as its only two lawyer owners resident in China.  Garvey's current website reflects that Hank Wang was made an owner on October 1, 2005 and he is now listed as Garvey's sole owner in China.  It appears Mr. Perry has since returned to Garvey's Seattle office and Mr. Lawrence has left Garvey for greener pastures with Holland & Knight's Beijing office. 

That leaves Garvey with only two lawyers in China, neither of whom on the surface seem to have the experience one normally expects of someone heading up the China office of an American corporate law firm.  Hank Wang (the sole owner in China) has a U.S. law degree (garnered from St. Louis University in 1992), but, he appears not to have all that much U.S. corporate experience, having started his own law firm in Tianjin in 1997.  It also appears he has been a Garvey owner for less than a year and a half and it is not clear he has been with the firm for all that much longer than that.  The other lawyer still at Garvey in China, Mark Spitalnik, appears to have even less experience practicing American-China international law.  A Google search on Mr. Spitalnik revealed a June 21, 2005, press release announcing his having joined a health care consulting company and describing him as having been in "private practice in the areas of medical malpractice, complex products liability and health insurance defense."  Before that healthcare job, it appears Mr. Spitalnik was general manager of a sign company in China.  Even if we assume Mr. Spitalnik stayed at his healthcare consulting job for only six months, he still appears to have at most only one year of recent China private practice legal experience. 

This is NOT to say Mr. Wang and Spitalnik are not first rate attorneys, but I for one will be watching to see what Garvey will seek to do to reinvigorate its China office.  Can a mid-size full service firm like Garvey compete with the big firms for China legal talent? 

Another Seattle firm, Preston Gates (Gates being the father of the Microsoft guy), seems to be making all the right moves for ramping up its China practice.  Preston just completed a merger with East Coast mega-firm, Kirkpatrick & Lockhart, creating the new firm of K&L Gates (did you think the "Gates" part would disappear?) and this is looking like a great move for both firms.  The merger gives the new merged firm a true nationwide presence and a global footprint.  K&L Gates now has 1400 lawyers in 22 cities, including strong offices in Beijing, Hong Kong, and Taipei, along with not very well concealed plans to open a Shanghai office as quickly as possible. 

Because my firm is so small and so focused on international work, we often work with other firms to assist our clients and we have a long history of working with Preston.  We have worked with the following Preston lawyers over the years and we think the world of them:

  • John Bjorkman  -- Super litigator.
  • Mabry DeBuys -- I cannot even imagine a better huge case family lawyer.
  • Helen Bergman Moure -- Part of Preston's world renowned Document Analysis Technology Group and Records Management Practice Group.  FYI to lawyers: this group puts out THE blog on electronic discovery law.      
  • Margaret Niles -- Private equity law guru.
  • Jamie Pederson -- Superb VC and corporate lawyer. 

For more on the Preston/Kirkpatrick merger, check out the following:

The common wisdom of law firm consultants is that big firms can thrive, boutique firms can thrive, but full service mid-sized firms are just going to get caught betwixt and between.  Is this true in China also? But what constitutes a big firm these days?  1000+ lawyers? Is big to be defined internationally, or can a top end firm considered big for a particular region (such as the U.S. Northwest) still be considered big in terms of its ability to compete?  Check out this great post on categorizing law firms, appropriately entitled, "Categorizing Law Firms."

As always, we would love to hear from you.

Comments

I am not a lawyer, nor do I play one on tv so I cannot comment too much on the comings and goings among the law firms. But I work in finance and with lawyers and generally agree - global firms like mine are not going to work with a law firm in China if the lawyers there are anything else then top notch. We would not do that in the US either, so why in China (where we are moving much more slowly and carefully)? Secondly, I agree with your thoughts about consolidation. There is a similar mindset about banks - huge banks like Bank of America can make it, and local high touch community banks can make it but surviving as a regional "middle sized" bank is tough. You either do well and are acquired or you fail. Maybe this is where all 'professional service' type business are heading? Finance, accounting, law, etc?

James --

Thanks for checking in.

You raise an interesting point regarding medium sized firms having trouble in other industries as well. Your mentioning accounting certainly rings true here in Seattle where I have seen a number of really good small local firms successfully tie in with some of the so-called second tier nationals, but I have also seen some of the small ones jump back out after having merged with medium sized firms. No reason to think that what is true for law is just true for law.

Consider the geotech/enviro field in China if you want to deal with punters. Every so called expert comes out of the wood work with a long list of family and guanxi contacts, names of retired PLA generals that no one has ever heard of and a wheelbarrow full of theories about this and that, yet these bums won't go out to a drill site to do a single well log or electro-gram profile. Much less get involved in waste water runoff. And their universities stand behind them 100%. Unfortunately local govt's, even BJ and Shanghai are interested in promoting local experts so you at least have to fuel up on green tea or coffee just to listen to these guys ramble on for hours about this and that and they don't have a single spreadsheet, core sample or delineation profile to back it up. And you are paying them western level expert witness fees to boot.

Chinese professionalism.

Great post.

I too see what is happening in the US happening in China. It is already happening. I work for a large MNC in China and we use our American firm's Shanghai office for our China work, which makes complete sense for us, because they do much of our work in the US and in Europe and there are benefits from going with the same horse everywhere. They have done a great job for us in China too. I also see the advantages of small focused firms, but I have never understood what the typical medium sized, unfocused firm offers.

nanheyangrouchuan --

How did we get on the topic of Chinese enviro firms? I will say that I am constantly being told by my Chinese lawyer friends that there is a huge need for Western enviro firms in China.

PurloinedByNight --

Thanks for checking in. Yours is the first name that has ever made me laugh out loud. I will not even bother to ask whence it comes.

Even the "typical medium sized, unfocused firm" may very well have some great lawyers within it and since clients tend to hire the lawyer and not the firm, this is a pretty critical offering.

Good post. If Anna is at all accurate then it would seem that MWE may have jumped the gun with their press release.

What is the latest about the crackdown on foreign firms? Have you or any other commentors seen that actually happening? What exactly is MWE doing in Shanghai - in terms of the structure of their 'partnership' with the local firm? Is it a JV?

I am not as familiar with Garvey. Are they just plugging lawyers in (in China) so that they can continue to have a presence there? Is the demand for experienced (in China) lawyers that high or the supply so low that firms are just putting people in place if they have ANY sort of related experience? Will certainly make me look a little more closely at our lawyer qualifications, both in China and other countries.

Derek --

Thanks for checking in and thanks for the kudos. Always appreciated.

Based on the fact those names were still on Allbright's website, at least some of what Anna says is definitely true.

I actually had a nice chat with the WSJ reporter who did the story on MWE and he told me that the deal took months to figure out and was extremely complicated. Beyond that and beyond what was in the WSJ article on this, I have forgotten the rest, not that I ever knew much. I do not know whether it is a JV or not, but that is a good question.

You should, of course, always look closely at who you are hiring as your lawyer, in China and elsewhere. As for Garvey's China office, I think it would be unfair to say Garvey just "plugs" lawyers into China. Right now it would appear they do not have anyone in China with the experience one would expect, but I think the real question is whether they will be hiring anyone to step in there or just sticking with what remains. Can a medium size general firm from Seattle really hope to compete with the "big boys" from London, New York, and L.A.?

The work my firm does is so different from those "big boys" that we are pretty much a separate market. We have great relationships with a number of them because we refer companiesto them with the work that is too big for us to handle and they refer us the clients that are too small for them to handle economically. A good percentage of our work actually comes from the really big firms.

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