Live Blogging From Doing Business In China Seminar (IV)
Well, again, almost live.
Bob Erwin from Robert E. Landweer & Company, spoke on "Getting Products in and out of Asia." Mr. Erwin's company has an excellent reputation in Seattle and Mr. Erwin's obvious knowledge of the subject only burnished that reputation.
Tax attorney and C.P.A., John J. O'Donnell, from Ogden Murphy Wallace, PLLC, gave an excellent presentation on the state tax ramifications of importing and exporting products.
Michael A. Craig of Certech International and William B. Stafford of Trade Development Alliance of Greater Seattle spoke on Seattle's longstanding sister city relationship with Chongqing and on how Chongqing is a great place to do business. I somewhat disagree. I think Chongqing is a great place for large companies like Ford and Cummins Engine, which are already there, but I think it lacks the necessary services infrastructure for Western SMEs (Small and Medium Sized Enterprises). At one point, I asked these two gentlemen if Chongqing had English speaking accountants and they both immediately answered, "yes." But as we continued to talk, their basis for their response seemed to be based more on the fact that "English is being taught in all the schools" and Ford and Cummins have had no problems than on anything concrete. Ford and Cummins can go to Chongqing because they do not mind paying their Big Four accounting firm back in Shanghai to come to Chongqing when necessary, but such a situation is obviously less than ideal for the smaller company. I am certainly not saying small companies should ignore Chongqing, but at the same time, just because Ford and Cummins have a big presence there does not mean you should.
The seminar concluded with the two hosts, Franklin Dennis and Brian Esler, giving an excellent presentation on the Foreign Corrupt Practices Act (FCPA). To summarize, do not bribe government officials. Make sure nobody ever bribes a government official on your behalf. Make it very clear to everyone who works for you in any capacity (employee, independent contractor, agent, etc.) that you will not tolerate the payment of bribes. Put these rules in your contract.
Very good advice and a very good conclusion to what was a pretty enjoyable and nicely put together seminar.


Comments
I am teaching business (BBA) candidates at a well regarded school in the South of China and I guarantee you that you only want 1-2 of my current students anywhere near your business.
China may be teaching English at every school, but it takes little more than a white face and citizenship from any English speaking country (besides African ones) to qualify as a teacher.
Companies need to vigilant and spend a great deal of time and energy locating resources. And every company needs culturally sensitive expats actively involved in hiring and ongoing training.
A firm like ALTEC (www.altec.com.cn )can help a staff, on both sides of the cultural divide begin and maintain communication.
Posted by: Lonnie | October 25, 2006 12:16 AM
The FCPA issues were big in my summer, and there were particular problems in terms of agency and misaligned incentives--i.e., employee working on commission and playing with company slush fund bribing officials with result that he secures more contracts and gets higher commissions. How did they handle the "grease" payments provision?
Posted by: Bart Motes | October 25, 2006 8:26 AM
Lonnie --
Thanks for checking in. I completely agree. There are something like 600,000 engineers in China but McKinsey says only around 14,000 of these are of hiring quality for a multinational company. I have no reason to believe the numbers are not similar in most of the professions, including accounting.
I checked out Altec on the web and they do look good. But what they appear to do is to improve the language and cultural skills of existing Chinese and ex-pat staff, so I would not think they would be of much help to a small or medium sized company looking to get started in China. Once that company has staff in place, Altec would make sense. Do I have this right?
Posted by: China Law Blog | October 25, 2006 8:39 AM
Bart --
Thanks for checking in. I am not terribly well versed in the FCPA and I am not entirely sure I understand your question. They said that "willful ignorance" is not good enough and one can be held responsible for the actions of another if those actions are willfully ignored. They said the key is to make sure that you are so clear to anyone who works for you in any capacity that you will not permit bribery. Then, if bribery occurs, the Justice Department will believe you are surprised by it and that you have done what you could to prevent it, and things will be much better for you. Does this answer the question? If not, I will need to go back to Brian and/or Frank for their input.
Posted by: China Law Blog | October 25, 2006 8:53 AM
I personally think that Chongqing has a lot to offer, but it will depend on the company. ford and heavy industry are there for the steel and history of heavy manufacturing. they are not there for the English skills, and any company that bases their decision to move to China, or any city of China, based o the availability of English speaking talent is not going to last very long anyway.
KPMG recently announced the opening of an office of 30 or so, and the rest are sure to follow. There are already a significant number of service providers cropping up from logistics companies, real estate, and the like all there to make sure foreign companies are able to operate in their city. (Chengdu's entire 12 person FDI team are all returning Chinese with excellent English).
Middle/ senior management is being provided by locals from Shanghai and Beijing, and as these are typically high end local managers, the lack of English is not a problem (as long as the guys at the top are dual language).
with so many companies now looking to the western side of China, it will not be long before posts on labor shortages will be the norm.
One of our recent studies was of manufacturing capabilities in 15 second tier cities. for those looking to move from the coast, or open there second sites within China, going west is the best option... if you want to remain competitive that is
Have fun at the conference Dan, and thanks for the reports.
Posted by: Rich Brubaker | October 25, 2006 10:35 AM
Rich --
Thanks for checking in. I wish you had been one of the speakers at the seminar. Truly.
Posted by: China Law Blog | October 25, 2006 10:35 PM
These updates have been very helpful to read. Thank you. Sounds like a great conference.
Posted by: Chris | October 28, 2006 12:24 AM
Chris --
Thanks for checking in. Glad you have enjoyed them.
Posted by: China Law Blog | October 29, 2006 4:38 AM