China's Proposed Labor Law Causing Sucking Sounds
The other day I posted on China's proposed new labor laws, in a post entitled, "China's Proposed Labor Law:Going After Capitalists Like China, 1967." Got a great comment from Seoul super-lawyer, Brendan Carr, that is so good and so helpful, it deserves its own post. So here goes, in Brendan's own words:
Korea already has a Labor Standards Act (LSA) which confers job security like you're describing the Chinese act wants to provide. Boy, does the LSA suck. Its primary and signal defect is the arbitrariness of having such a law in an environment where only the foreign companies, and big Korean companies, give a dang about compliance. Smaller Korean companies are beastly employers, but there are so many of them -- and they have so many other legal problems -- that it's not worthwhile for authorities to police them. So instead they focus on the errant multinational, who "ought to know better" because of the famous foreign brand.
Free legal advice to foreign employers: Fixed term contracts should start off at 12 months. Never hire anyone on an open-ended contract, which is employment for life ab initio, or a contract longer than 12 months (you can't enforce the longer period against the Korean employee anyway). And before that fixed term contract has renewed a second time, make a decision whether you feel comfortable having the employee around forever. Because that's the legal position after that contract has renewed twice.
From a competitive standpoint, as we hear the giant sucking sound over here in Seoul, we can say Hell, yes, China -- do it! as an equally bad labor law will level the employment-law playing field. But on an objective level, it sure seems stupid.
Four things (at least) worthy of highlight from Brendan's comment, now post:
1. Tougher laws, without equal enforcement, are a way to camouflage discrimination against foreign companies. Korea and Japan are notorious for this.
2. Laws do influence where companies locate. Yes, it would be great if China's labor laws where as protective as those in Sweden, but if they were, countless companies now in China will indeed move to places like Vietnam. What is best for the Chinese worker? I am not calling for 70 hour weeks or no minimum wage, but at the same time, there has to be a balancing.
3. Good lawyers figure out how to use laws to their clients' advantage and this means that laws relating to business rarely immediately succeed in fulfilling all of their goals.
4. Brendan Carr should start a Korean Law Blog. I know he is already one of the authors of Korea's leading blog, The Marmot's Hole, but I am serious. Brendan?
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Posted by: Brendon Carr | October 25, 2006 10:56 PM
Wal-Mart has been enforced tough labor law in China for a couple years through its contracts with supplier. Sweatshop is much more nightmare then ever before. Wal-Mart's demands on their suppliers already exceed even the proposed new labor law. Apple/Foxconn's recent iPod sweatshop PR was started in blog with pictures taken using cell phone camera. There are news of workers' protest in Guangdong for the working conditions. And overall, there is the government objective to push business westward.
I see the proposed labor law as a way to accomplish the above goal. The foreigner companies have imposed the higher standard on their suppliers. The foreigner companies would not have problem with complaint with the law. The less healthy ones affected by the law could move to Vietnam or west. It's better for the government to lose them now then they went under without paying the workers. The later would be a much tougher nightmare to deal with. Costal regions like Guangdong already have labor shortage so those layoff are likely to find jobs in better factories.
Posted by: David Li | October 25, 2006 11:20 PM
Brendon --
Good name. Go for it.
Posted by: China Law Blog | October 26, 2006 7:44 AM
Mr. Li--
What you say is very interesting and makes sense. I have already heard from someone else who said the same thing: this is a drive to push companies West. I can tell you that we are seeing a bit of the same thing with respect to the minimum capital requirements for forming a WFOE in places like Shanghai. That has been true of polluting industries for a while now also.
Chongqing/Chengdu here we come?
Posted by: China Law Blog | October 26, 2006 7:46 AM
As the Chinese saying: "You never regret being married until you are in Sichun." Be warned, my breve brethren. ;)
Posted by: David Li | October 26, 2006 10:39 AM
Mr. Li --
Thanks for checking in. Ain't gonna go there. No upside; much downside.
Posted by: China Law Blog | October 26, 2006 1:07 PM